what is going ont with the 4 cycle motors are you selling them buy there self. i saw a 4 cycle on the desert rat bike but i saw no info on it i was just curious

I just ordered a 4 stroke bike and will let you know how it works out.

Will spookytooth be selling the 4 cycle by itself? or just mounted on bicycles?

i hope so i saw a bike at a local pawn shop that once i got the funds i might get if i can find a 4 stroke engine for it
i think its a 24 inch w/ the most solid body i think ive ever seen on a bike other than the seat post it feels almost like its solid has these fairly thick off road type tires infact the guy at the shop said the kid who sold this bike to him also dose moto cross and bmx sports (im not a real bike nut so i dont know much about it)
i dont know who the manufacture is but it has lots of SORBA (Southern Off-Road Bicycle Association) decals on it
the guy at the store said he wants 210

Spooky's still got a mod, just a very busy one.....I personally can't help with the four stroke questions, you may want to call the shop for that one.

We are soooo busy around the shop these days! Thanks for everyone's patience during these extremely busy times.

Busy times- count it all joy!

Here is my professional opinion as a motorized bicycle builder and vendor of bike engines.

There are a lot of good 4 stroke engines out there that will drive you for upwards of 50,000 miles without any major hassles. Shoot, we are creating our own 4-stroke design...

But, it is very important to know that the 4 stroke bike engines that are of any value are going to cost at least $500.

Out of China there are 2 cheap 4-stoke kits, the Starfire Gen 2 and another no name that also fits the Honda GXH50 and its Chinese replacement the Hua-Sheng 49cc. The quality of workmanship that goes into the inexpensive 4 stroke gearbox is SO BAD that I receive many emails asking us for replacement service parts. I hear of bushings prematurely wearing after 10 hours of riding and woodruff keys shearing. The Starfire is better than the no name but many problems still arise from poor quality control. The engines are nice, strong engines. They are not the best on the market because of their aluminum cylinder and chrome bore, but they work just fine and fire up every time. It is how the gearboxes are made that is so troubling.

If you are interested in the no name engine that is pictured below, please reconsider. This engine gearbox is the cheapest piece of junk I have ever seen on the planet. The ebay seller who sells this does not offer a warranty and will not honor refunds or exchanges to fix the problems that occur. We purchased 5 of the engines and each of them quit after 8 hours of use. We lost thousands of dollars in testing this product with no recourse to fix the problems. My Chinese contacts do not have replacement parts either. The centrifugal clutch bell housing cracked in half and woodruff keys sheared. Why? Because on close examination, there is not a single straight line or cog inside the engine.

Thank you for letting me rant.
Cheers. Roland

Post edited by: spookyto, at: 2008/07/13 01:05

So how are the gearboxes coming along for Spooky Tooth? I am about ready to get one. You are right that a fall apart purchase is not acceptable for most. Thanks for the warning on the cheeper ones and their true value.