Weeellll ... boys you will be amazed! I Blew it up! Yep, That third lap around the block and it (motor) jumped off the frame and burnt my leg. I really recommend wearing jeans!!!!!!

Ahhhhh --- it's not so bad! I've twisted him back around and got the motor sitting on the frame somewhat straight. It was the bolt to the modified motor mount that came loose. I'm gonna go see of I can't find a longer bolt, lock washer and self locking nut!!! I did mess up the plug wire and pulled the gas line loose, but I think I can fix those too.

Worse part I guess was having to half carry the thing back to the house. I was grinning something aweful thoe. And I'm not ready to kick it yet.

Thanks Roger for the comp.

Sorry to hear about the mount problems, Sounds like its just a minor setback, You seem to be a very intelligent driven woman who is handy with her tools. I am sure you will have it up and mounted stronger and better in no time. I read somewhere where someone used a muffler clamp to help reinforce the mount, But since I have not yet recieved my motor yet, I am not sure if it will work or not,

Randy,

That's a thought. After the motor jumped frame and I half carried it back home I HAD to have a shower. While in there I was thinking, "there sure is alot of pull on the left side of the motor". Mounted as well as you could possibly mount it with the what comes with the kit there's still a lot of pull. I think I saw where someone had added an extra mounting fixture, but I'm at a loss right this minute as to where I saw that. And I probably will add something?

Hopefully your bike will be a better fit for the kit and you won't have to do the modification. The motor jumping frame is really my fault for not checking that bolt better. Spook's Manual tells you to check, check, check the bolts and nuts!!!

Good luck to you on your kit.

Post edited by: crazyfemalewomandriver, at: 2008/07/02 07:45

you mean you did not get the full assembly from roland i bought the bare bones and got the full assembly it was well worth the money you dont wanna attach these motors to just any old bike you want something sturdy i take my bike down 4 wheeler trails in upstate n.y. by the way if that pic is really you than your hot!

I wanted to put one together myself, call me crazy ... I may order a complete bike from Roland one of these days just so I can have one of the pro's bikes ...

Hot huh? Well, thanks. That was a New Years photo (2008) and I did my hair and put on makeup. Most days I just hang around pretty much Plane Jane style. I'm ftsmjosie on myspace if you don't believe me. By the way were is your photo???

Think I'll go have some powered donuts and chocolate milk ......

i checked out your page but i was wrong...... your hotter than i thought :] and i left you a message

All,

I got the bike back together and running, so I didn't mess anything up too bad. I bought a nice bolt set to replace the one that bailed on me. I need to replace the fuel line, it pulled loose when the motor jumped frame and even though it fit back, it just doesn't have as tight a seal as it needs (dribbles).

When they tell you check nuts and bolts they mean it!!! I was riding around the neighborhood last night and when I go home I noticed that the little bracket that bolts the back fender out was gone. I'm going to go back with self locking nuts on as many spots as I can fit them.

I think I'm going to name this bike or self VIN# it: CFWDSTCGMBK#1 (crazy female woman driver spooky tooth cycles gas motor bike kit # 1). I think I'll call him Coppa for short ... kinda colored up like an old cop car.

To all a Happy Independance Day!
Josie

PS ... you all should see the blister I have from that motor jumping off on me. I feel like a kid again with a play ground battle scare. Yea ... I was a tomboy growing up. It was way more fun, but I had barbies too and wore dresses when I had to!

Gotta run ... need bottle rockets ... tons of them!!!

Hi CFWD,
Good job on the bike.
I just ordered a kit so maybe I can get some advice.
What is the other site and what is the third manual you refered to (one on this site, one comes w/ engine?)
Also, I might have to do a custom mounting job because my bike has a bottom tube between bb and seat tube. Where can I get custom mounting brackets?

As far as custom mounting brackets go, you may have to use some imagination and ingenuity. Possibly fabricate one yourself out of a piece of strap metal. Also, don't know if you did this or not Crazy, but when you do fix you're motor mounts, you might use a a cut piece of rubber (such as from a tube or other piece of rubber) cut to size and wrapped around the frame inside of the mount. I figure that should do something to cut down on vibration problems, and just probably an all around good idea. Peruse you local hardware store and look for items that might possible work as an alternative if stock mounting options do not work.

Edit: Although I have not actually built one of these yet (I surely will in the next few months) just measure from the top side of your bottom tube to the bottom side of your top tube. (alongside the seat tube) If you have at least 12 inches between them I am assuming the motor will more than likely fit even if you may have to do a little bit of customization to make it work.

Post edited by: Biker, at: 2008/07/11 13:41

Post edited by: Biker, at: 2008/07/11 13:46

The jury is still out on rubber mounting these kits....there are two camps, one says "rubber mount" and the other says "It makes 'em worse".

I use gaffers tape (friction tape) and wrap the frame tubes just a couple of wraps. Next project, I am mounting the engine with thin lead sheet between the engine and frame. Lead is one of the best vibration and sound dampeners there is.

Also, there are a lot of ways to dampen vibration....I have used weather strip inside the fenders and chain gard...make them stop ringing. I have filled the frame tubes with expandable foam...not much help. I have filled the bars with lead shot (available at finer gun dealers near you), which work nicely if your bars are buzzy.

These engines do smooth out A LOT with some proper break-in miles (like a few hundred).

This may help with mounting....


Post edited by: Bikeguy Joe, at: 2008/07/11 19:22

Hey Josie, how many miles you got on the bike?

Well, worker1, your in for a treat ... these are fun little kits to install. As far as that modified mounting bracket goes ... I used the actual clamp side that was suppose to go around the tub frame. I held the motor in place and eyeballed it then fit it on there to where the bolts would about touch the frame. Then I went and bought a 17/64" (hair bigger than the 1/4" bolts that come with the kit) metal bit. I do recommend getting you some lock washers and self locking nuts. You can go and look at my photos on my MYSPACE acct. The hiper link is in one of the past blog inputs on here. I think you can see pretty good what I did in the photos were the motor jumped frame! Oh --- while holding the motor with modified mount in place to make sure you're drilling a hole in your frame that matches the hole in your modification make sure your carb stuff is hooked up. You could end up with your angle off and I also scratched the paint on the side of the tub where my modified mount was to indicate the angle I needed to drill the hole. If the motor vibrates as bad as most say then you don't want too much presure on the bolt. I bought a nice bolt (strong metal) set up. After I learned my lesson ... Blister is getting better!

BJ ... haven't made it through the first tank. Been working long days this week. I don't think I have the throatle set up right ... it seems to have no effect at all. The motor is either on or off. ???hummmm??? Any ideas???? BUT I haven't had it over 17 miles an hour yet either ... My neighbors are going to get tired of me buzzing around ... still afraid to go too far incase it messes up again. I should say, "I mess up again".

Sorry worker1, forgot ... Spook's manual and then there were two in the box with the kit ... one glossy and one black & white. Print off the one from this site!!!

I actually love this site
Josie

Throttle on or off...hmmmm. Take the air filter cover and element off and look at the throttle as you turn it. Does the slide go all the way down when off and all the way up when you turn it? How does it idle?

Don't baby it too much, the first hour of operation is critical to proper break-in.

Filter cover? Element? Got pictures for me. I can't read in Spanish either. Figured that out a long time ago, but if I've got pictures I can get pretty close!

Okay ... this is how it goes ... so far ... I've figured that it doesn't like to be set on full choke to start ... needs to be set down about a quarter of that lever's range of motion. Once started it runs pretty good ... anywhere from 14 to 17MPH. I have to use the clutch to disengage the motor to slow down for corners, or stop! When I disengage the motor the motor revs ... I've tryed ajusting the choke, but the RPMS seem to go crazy and it runs off the bugs. I'm really not sure how to adjust the screwthingy with the spring??? And when it's motor assisted running /clutch engaged the throttle seems to have no effect ... won't speed up or slow it down? I'm only running it for sort spells ..less than ten minutes at a time ... read somewhere to do that for the first two gallons (that's alot of ten minute trips to get to that 300 mile mark). Hopefuully I won't hurt it during my trials and errors!

So what do ya think??? I bet your wondering if I still have the box so I can mail it back!

Josie

hi try adjusting the set screw the throttle runs to it the barrel spring thing ..so tuning it in lessens idle turning it out tightens and increases idle...or it is stuck in there (sticking)and wont move up or down ,if so ,remedy that first then the throttle to fine tune it ;remember tighter the wire the more the carb is open...ps the choke sucks in more gas when engaged... good on warm ups,but,after that all the way off with the choke(down).too rich with choke wont lube right.
about the turns tho try not to clutch it at all just back off on the throttle(once it works right) and the whole thing will
wind down like down shifting a car...then throttle it back up no
clutch neccesary..yeah.off you go. sleepy

crazyfemalewomandriver wrote:
Filter cover? Element? Got pictures for me. I can't read in Spanish either. Figured that out a long time ago, but if I've got pictures I can get pretty close!

Okay ... this is how it goes ... so far ... I've figured that it doesn't like to be set on full choke to start ... needs to be set down about a quarter of that lever's range of motion. Once started it runs pretty good ... anywhere from 14 to 17MPH. I have to use the clutch to disengage the motor to slow down for corners, or stop! When I disengage the motor the motor revs ... I've tryed ajusting the choke, but the RPMS seem to go crazy and it runs off the bugs. I'm really not sure how to adjust the screwthingy with the spring??? And when it's motor assisted running /clutch engaged the throttle seems to have no effect ... won't speed up or slow it down? I'm only running it for sort spells ..less than ten minutes at a time ... read somewhere to do that for the first two gallons (that's alot of ten minute trips to get to that 300 mile mark). Hopefuully I won't hurt it during my trials and errors!

So what do ya think??? I bet your wondering if I still have the box so I can mail it back!

Josie

The black oplastic thingy that goes on the back of the carb....thats the cover and inside is a small foam element. Remove those and look at the brass slide to determine what's happening when you turn your throttle.

Do you have your slide in backwards? (it's easy to do and a lot of folks get it in wrong.) That would make it do what you describe. Make sure the slide is in so the SLOT is on the right as you sit on the bike, the NOTCH on the left, or screw side.

As for the carb adjustments- First make sure your slide is in right and all the way down. Next turn in the adjuster at the top of the carb until there is some slack in the cable housing (outer black cover). Next, unscrew it until there is just a fraction of an inch of ply. This is NOT an idle adjuster, but a cable adjuster made to remove extra slack from the cable. Next (with your air filter cover/element still off, turn the screw on the side of the carb until you just see the slide moving up. That's a good starting point.

One last thing- sometime these throttle slides fit tight, and you need to "adjust" them with some sandpaper. Get some 380-400 grit and slowly rotate the slide on the paper (sometimes for an hour) until it slide freely in the carb.

Thanks guys for the info. I've copied it off and will try to get out in the garage and mess with that stuff tonight. I'll let ya know what works for me.

Josie

I also got mine assembled this week and had the chain come off and bend some spokes, always an adventure, so now I am collecting some parts to try again......

Awe Man! That sucks ... I have read somewhere else about someone loosing the chain and it bending spokes. When you get a chance load a photo ... I'd love to see your bike. This site is really cool ... and it's interesting to see what folks have.

Has it bitten you yet? I haven't even got mine all figured out, but the other day I was driving in Tulsa and passed a big flee market. There was a trike there and I wanted to go back and look it over ... possible candidate ... Lauren wouldn't let me. She rolled her eyes and whinned (She had shopping for her on the brain). KIDS!!!

I have a feeling there will be more bikes in my future ... some were talking the other day about gas hitting $7 by Sept. And that's here in the poor state of AR. HAVE MERCY!!!